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How former family business leaders from Sioux Falls, Le Mars found purpose in retirement

Not only did Joe Kirby want to retire by age 40, but he never planned to work for the family business in the first place.

“I had little intent of being pulled into the family business,” said Joe, former CEO of Sioux Falls-based Western Surety Company, “and I think the gravity of a business like that eventually sucks people in.”

His great-grandfather founded the business in 1900, and Joe joined in the 1970s along with three other members of the fourth generation.

“We ran it for a while, and then we sold it,” Joe said. “And, no regrets. It was a good decision.”

He was in his late 30s at that time, and, with the sale of the business, Joe was able to retire when he was just 43 years old.

“I wanted to retire young because I think…there’s a lot about life that’s important, and making money is an early thing to get done,” he said. “And then, as soon as you can, get out.”

Joe, along with Mike Wells of Wells Blue Bunny and Craig Snyder of VIKOR Teleconstruction and Pomegranate Market, recently spoke at a private event about life after retiring from a family business.

Former CEOs Mike Wells, Craig Snyder, and Joe Kirby.

Former family business leaders Mike Wells, Craig Snyder, and Joe Kirby.

The event was recorded for an episode of our podcast, Common Cents on the Prairie™.

A live recording of the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

Collectively, the three former CEOs discussed building a legacy both within and outside of the family business and shared their advice for finding purpose in retirement.

Building legacy, family, and a family business

“In 1977, I graduated high school, married my 17-year-old high school sweetheart, started full-time at Wells, and started full-time at college,” Mike said. “So anything in our life…the answer is always: it happened in 1977.”

Craig Snyder, Mike Wells, and Joe Kirby recording an episode of the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

Also in 1977, Mike and his wife, Cheryl, were expecting their first child.

“I had a baby on the way,” he said. “I needed a job, and I needed an education.”

Then, his dad gave him the best career advice Mike has ever received.

“Early on, he said, ‘Don’t ever ask somebody to do something you’re not willing to do yourself,’” Mike said. “And so I took that to heart.”

He took on a full class load at college while simultaneously working 70 hours a week in the family business — doing every job from driving trucks to working in factories.

“I did everything I could to support our young family and to learn as much as I could about the business,” Mike said.

Mike was among the third generation to work at Wells Enterprises, the maker of Blue Bunny ice cream based in Le Mars, Iowa. He took the helm as CEO in 2007.

While Mike was carrying on the family legacy, Craig was building a legacy of his own.

“I grew up fairly humble, and I thought my way up and out was entrepreneurship,” Craig said.

In his early 20s, he started looking for opportunities.

“I almost got into the video rental business,” Craig said. “So, thankfully, that didn’t work out.”

Craig Snyder on the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

In the meantime, he worked as a tower climber.

“I’m just trying to make my way through college with a good paying job and adventure some, climbing up high on these TV towers,” Craig said. “And the fellow that I was working for died in a car crash, and I thought, ‘Well, there’s my opportunity.’ So I started VIKOR Teleconstruction all those years ago.”

Leaving the family business

The decision to leave the family business came naturally for Joe. He made it in tandem with his fourth-generation counterparts.

“There were four of us that bought the business, and two wanted out at some point,” he said. “The other two of us thought, ‘Are we going to leverage up and buy them out, or are we all just going to take the opportunity to get out?’”

Joe Kirby on the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

According to Joe, they were all happy with the decision to sell and viewed it as the right thing for their family and the business.

“We survived four generations, which is incredible,” he said. “You beat the odds to go that long.”

Mike also made the decision to sell the family business, although he was the sole family member running Wells Enterprises at the time.

“I realized that staying too long is detrimental to either the person or the company,” he said. “I felt like staying too long as CEO, you either get burned out or you get complacent.”

He set a retirement date for November 11, 2022 — exactly 15 years after he became CEO.

“So we’re rolling into 2019, 2020, and I’m saying to my family, ‘Well, the date’s coming. What do you want to do?’” he said.

The family shareholders agreed to sell, and by 2022 a deal was in place with Giovanni Ferrero.

Yes, Ferrero, as in the third largest chocolate company in the world.

“My daughter was getting married on November 11, 2022, and I’m sitting on the beach in Jamaica as she gets married, with that cellphone in my hand, negotiating the final deal point,” Mike recalled. “They say every deal dies three times. This one died five.”

Finally, the deal went through, and “it was making good on the promise that I had made to my family about finding a solution for them,” Mike said.

Mike Wells on the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

Ironically, Craig— who had set out to build a business that he could sell — was the only of the three who passed the family business on to the next generation.

“In the early days, I didn’t think my family was going to get into the business,” Craig said. “I was building it to sell.”

He added, “Well, then my kids turned into their 20s, and one came into the business and then another. And, you know, over that decade from their early 20s until 30s, it started to make sense that they would just take over.”

Craig’s son-in-law is currently the chief financial officer at VIKOR, and one of his sons runs assets and equipment for the business.

Another of his sons is president of Pomegranate Market.

“It wasn’t a plan, but it turned out to be a beautiful thing,” Craig said.

Finding purpose in retirement

“In the early days, I was very much driven, you know, by success, by growth of the company, by building net worth, for a hope for exit someday,” Craig said. “And so, I was always just chugging along, trying to make the very best of everything that came in front of me.”

Recently retired after leading VIKOR for 36 years, Craig is still test-driving his new purpose.

“[My] purpose might’ve been more financial, more success driven, but throughout, I kept trying to also serve God, serve my family, serve my church, things like that,” Craig said.

He remains chairman at VIKOR and minority owner at Pomegranate Market but says he has some projects currently in the works.

“I’m still 61 years old,” Craig said. “I still have a lot of years left ahead of me, but I don’t have the full purpose figured out yet.”

Craig Snyder, Mike Wells, and Joe Kirby recording an episode of the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

Lucky for Craig, Mike and Joe had advice to offer him and others gearing up for retirement.

“Because I retired young, I watched a lot of my peers struggle as they got older and they approached retirement,” Joe said. “And, honestly, most people fail miserably, because they have a fantasy.”

Maybe those people take up golf or tennis for a while, until an injury takes them out of the game.

“They need to think it through a little bit more and really have a deeper purpose, I think, beyond just having fun,” Joe said.

Mike agreed, stating that retirement is not about bettering your golf game, traveling, or laying on beaches.

Both Joe and Mike have found their deepest purpose through giving back to their communities.

For Joe, that’s Sioux Falls. For Mike, it’s Le Mars.

“My generation of the family got into community service early on,” Joe said. “We all served on boards, got to know what was going on in the community. I was actually involved in writing the city charter in Sioux Falls when we still had the business.”

Because he had planted those roots early on, Joe never lost his purpose even when he left the family business.

“My wife and I, in recent years, we talk about our mission, and it’s basically to find things that would not happen but for us,” he said. “…We provide both leadership and, as necessary, wealth to make good things happen in the community.”

Craig Snyder, Mike Wells, and Joe Kirby recording an episode of the Common Cents on the Prairie podcast.

Mike’s purpose, similarly, did not change in retirement.

“About 10 years ago, I wrote a personal mission statement,” Mike said, “and that was to get up every day and do something that really needed done…but making sure that it benefited somebody else besides myself.”

He and Cheryl now operate a community development business. They own 35 properties in Le Mars, about half of which are historic and in need of restoration.

“We’re turning those buildings into art, and we are incubating first-time businesses that are creating jobs and driving the economic development of our community,” Mike said. “And we’re having a blast doing it.”

He’s on to something, too: retirement should be a blast, but the fun needs to be more than just surface level.

“Fun lasts for about six months before you start feeling empty, if you don’t have other things that you are really passionate about,” Joe said. “So find those before you retire.”

You can learn more about the business and retirement journeys of Joe Kirby, Craig Snyder, and Mike Wells by watching the full episode of Common Cents on the Prairie below. Or, listen on Apple Podcasts or your favorite streaming app.

And if you’d like help preparing for your own retirement, send a note to our team at First National Wealth Management. We’d be happy to have a conversation!

 

Any comments, insights, or strategies discussed in this article are intended to be general in nature and, therefore, may not be suitable for you and your situation, whatever that may be. Before acting on anything written here, please consult with your attorney, CPA, and/or your financial advisor.

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Modeling joy in work to perpetuate a family business

Maggie Groteluschen
Fiduciary Services Manager

I look forward to attending the annual Prairie Family Business Conference every year.

This year, one of the speakers talked about how he had recently sold his family business. Upon being asked if any of his children had expressed interest in coming to work there, he lamented that they had not.

He went on to state, “Maybe that is something I should have thought about when my kids were very young: how to model joy in my work. But I am not sure they saw that from me, and I am not sure I was a very present dad. I have some regrets about that.”

As a mother to young children right now, goodness, did that make me step back and think.

How do my children see me now in my approach to “going to work” every day? Do they know without a doubt that, although our family business is important, they are my priority?

Is the way I am living going to inspire them, that they may someday also want to work in the family business?

From my earliest memories, I had the benefit of watching my dad go to a job every day that he loved. Somehow, from that young age, this impressed upon me that love of your work is all too rare.

Bill Baker and Maggie Groteluschen sitting together at a conference table.

My dad, Bill Baker, and I sharing our joy for work with each other.  

Wouldn’t I be lucky to join this family business and find that same passion?

Let me be clear: my parents fully supported me pursuing any career path I wanted, and my children will have the same support from me. As they grow up, I want them to find work that is rewarding and brings them joy.

But, with the chance that coming to work at the Bank might be one of their chosen career paths, I am certain I could do better in the way I talk about and model my role at work.

I am so thankful for the opportunity to ponder this lesson now, while I can still reflect on it and grow.

The following are some pledges I am making to myself and my family, and I offer them in hopes that they could help other family business leaders — but also that they can help all parents.

After all, who doesn’t want to see their children find deeply rewarding and satisfying work? And how will they grow to do that if they do not witness it early on?

Change the language

In listening to myself speak, I have realized that the language I use to describe work every day is often couched in the terms of “have to.”

Momma has to go to work.

Momma needs to get to a meeting.

One thing I intend to work on is changing my terminology to “get to.” I have chosen this career, I find it rewarding, and I “get to” go to work.

I get to meet with teammates and set direction for the business. I get to make clients’ financial journeys easier and better.

Maggie Groteluschen meeting with clients at First National Wealth Management.

It is also entirely too easy to get home and immediately dump my work frustrations onto my family; complaining about work is woven into modern-day culture.

To keep it real, I am by no means above a good, old-fashioned venting session. I do try, however, to bring home and share both the struggles and the rewards.

We have a practice of sharing our daily highs and lows at the dinner table with our kids.

It is fun to hear from them what challenges and highlights they faced during the day. I also love sharing the wins that I had and finding ways for my kids to see me celebrating how I got to help a client or teammate at work today.

Utilizing language that conveys my choice and what a privilege it is to come to my career each day helps reframe my mindset, even amid stressful times.

Instead of work-life balance, model work-life harmony

I gave up on the notion of “work-life balance” a long time ago.

To me, the term balance conveys walking a tightrope where the slightest imperfection can cause disaster — how stressful!

Instead, I have chosen to embrace “work-life harmony.”

In any beautiful chorus, different sections get to highlight the main theme of the music at different times, and it all results in a lovely combination of different parts. Harmony.

There are times in my life when work is going to be the main theme, times when parenting will be the main theme, and times when faith, fun, hobbies, or travel will be the theme. In the end, it must all work together to create a harmonious life.

Maggie Groteluschen and family at Lake Vermillion.

Discovering that the main theme will ebb and flow, and the relief from trying to perfectly balance it all the time, has given me the freedom to find so much more joy on the journey.

One of our family values is showing up for each other. I love that our family business allows for this quality time.

Maggie Groteluschen and her daughter at a school Valentine's Day party.I, along with the rest of First National Bank’s teammates, have volunteer time I can use to help with the classroom Valentine’s Day party or to chaperone field trips.

My life is harmonious when there is both the ability to work hard and the opportunity to show up to make memories with my family.

It is my hope that my children will remember and value my presence, the flexibility of the Bank, and our quality time together. While growing up, I knew without a doubt this was true from my dad, and I want my children to also see that they are always my priority.

Maggie Groteluschen at the lake with her dad and daughter.

Set appropriate boundaries

My career and our family business are a big, big part of me.

But they are not my identity.

I have interests and hobbies that extend beyond my office walls, and I hope my children can witness my commitment to caring for myself and delighting in other interests.

Traveling, music, theater, friendships, Pilates, knitting, cheering my kids on in sports, movie nights: these are the things that round out our full life.

I have a bit of a work-hard-play-hard streak. But the work cannot be all-consuming; if it were, I fear my kids would look to that and think they would never want to make that choice for themselves in the future.

I refuse for my career to be the only thing they get to know and see about me as a person.

To make our family business successful, we try to keep a boundary between the family and the business. If we are together celebrating a birthday or a holiday, that is family time.

Nobody wants to be enjoying their Thanksgiving pie and suddenly be confronted with a work question!

If our family has work to discuss, we schedule that during working time. Everyone knows we are gathering for the purpose of working on the business.

This way, family time can safely remain just that — time for relaxing, bonding, and enjoying each others’ presence separate from the business.

Maggie Groteluschen with her cousins Stewart and Rob.

A picture with my (very tall) cousins, Stewart and Rob, at the First National Bank holiday party.

Illustrate and discuss the impact of your business

Ours is a family business with core values. With heart.

It is meaningful to know your work is leaving things better than how you found them.

It is hard to convey this appropriately at the young ages of my children, but we have begun to try.

My kids know the First National Bank “flying F” logo and recognize it as a sponsor to sports teams, Orpheum children’s theater productions, and around the SculptureWalk and other downtown landmarks or events that the Bank sponsors.

A child's drawing of downtown Sioux Falls.

A drawing by my son of downtown Sioux Falls, including the First National Bank building marked by our “flying F” logo.

I share with them that our Stewardship value encourages the Bank to donate money that transforms so many cool ideas into realities.

In a couple years, I will start bringing them along to serve at The Banquet and attend other teammate volunteering projects the Bank organizes.

This is something I got to experience growing up, and it allowed me to get to know the Bank family my dad worked with every day and to see what great things volunteerism can accomplish.

Recognize the positive footprint

I’ll end today by telling a story that occurred on Valentine’s Day, when we were dining at the Touchmark senior living community with my grandma.

A woman who also lives at Touchmark scootched over in her walker to meet “the Baker family.”

She brought flowers from her table and gave them to my kids, telling them: “My husband and I were always so well taken care of by your great-grandpa and your grandpa at First National Bank. You are wonderful people with a business doing good things, and I want you to have these flowers. I am so glad to meet his great-grandchildren and to be able to tell you how much your family’s bank and kindness have meant to me.”

Wow. In the moment, I was stunned into silence.

On the drive home, we got to revisit her message with the kids. What a gift, an opportunity to lean in and tell them how and why this was special.

As I said at the outset, the objective is not to make them come work for the family business. But if I can live up to these pledges, we will be living the fullest life.

A portrait of Maggie Groteluschen and family.

And if, in doing so, my kids can learn lessons that will apply to their future and their life’s work, my dreams for them will come true.

If you have questions, hope to apply these pledges to your own family business, or would like help with your succession planning, financial planning, or financing needs, please reach out. I’m happy to share my years of expertise in both banking and family business with you!

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